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~moon/aesthetics@muratfeel free to discuss how the product *feels*
~moon/aesthetics@faunWould it make sense if I described the aesthetic as Steam-esque. Like if Steam had massively expanded its social functionality and made it good, or if Valve had made a social network.
@faunMust I be pink. I don't think anyone has ever force-pinked me before.
~moon/Kazan/madness@faunat least, most of them are.
~moon/Kazan/madness@faunfeed them long enough, they become their own.
~moon/feature-requests@faunAre locations supposed to nest?
~moon/feature-requests@faunso that you can just keep zooming in, like a fractal
~moon/feature-requests@faunPeople would hardly have to fight for space, because within every region are infinite subregions, and so in turn
~moon@faun(This place.. feels like home.. but I think it's just the two of us, here, isn't it.)
~moon/feature-requests@murat@faun yes i want to make it fractal too., like child channels show up within the map after you click on the parent
~moon/feature-requests@faunDid you ever see my web fractal thing "Dive"?
~moon/feature-requests@faunTrying to get it working again
@faunMust I be pink. I don't think anyone has ever force-pinked me before.
@muratyou pinked yourself, color is calculated from the hash of your handle :P
@murati can change your color if you throw me a hex
~moon/feature-requests@faunWell this is concerning. It seems to work, sort of, but the fractal is pitch black, now, there's nothing in there. http://dive.makopool.com/
~moon/feature-requests@murat@faun i see worklet-related code, so maybe browser APIs changed since you made it
~moon/feature-requests@murat@faun i see worklet-related code, so maybe browser APIs changed since you made it
~moon/feature-requests@faunWhat changed? (looking at MDN but nothing's standing out)
~moon/feature-requests@murat@faun was just a guess. I also see commented-out script tags, maybe some of them were needed? IDK just throwing random guesses at you. also haha nice title choice:
~moon/feature-requests@faunAh, I've found a NaN cascade. Following it to its source now.
~moon/feature-requests@faunIt traces back to a simple RNG that now erroneously returns a negative number. I'll have to change the RNG, then. I guess that means we'll never get to return to the place that used to be there.
~moon/feature-requests@muratnice, send it over when you get it working @faun
~moon@faunhm interesting bug. Can't scroll. Wonder what happens when I send a message.
~moon@faunStill can't scroll.
~moon@faunSwitching channels resolved it though so it's not serious
~moon@faunNo console errors.
~moon@faunI scrolled up a bit, and the scrollbar disappeared, and then I was stuck at that height.
~moon@faunThe scrollbar fell off.
~moon@faun(scrolling with the mousewheel also stopped working)
~moon/feedback@faunWhen I look around in https://dive.makopool.com/ and relate it to spiel's map, I'm inspired to try to imagine a version of spiel that feels like this...
~moon/feedback@faunAnd then I start thinking about the ownership dynamics of land, and all the additional friction it imposes on restructuring and reorganizing, and... I don't think spacial modes of organization are generally desirable. Euclidean space is constraining. In digital spaces, moving people around to improve propinquity can be made cheaper or free, so, many of the issues of space can be cured, but... We're drawn to these things because we want to be able to use our spacial memories to remember where everything is and how it relates to each other... but that's a form of human memory that's difficult to update as situations change. There is an essential truth to social relations like conceptual relevance, conflict relations, or overlaps in usership, but in contrast, there can be no essential unchanging truth to a spacial mapping. A spacial mapping is arbitrary, many are possible, and the best one for the given moment changes, but despite this, the spacial mapping will be hard to update in light of that.
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